review of Ireland Nordic Model law

There has been a review of the 2017 law in Ireland that criminalised the purchase of sex. This review was long delayed. There was interim review in 2020 by Dr Geoffrey Shannon and a couple of unofficial reviews.

go here to see the press release

go here to download a pdf file of the review

These are the three key paragraphs from the press release:-

"Among its findings, the review highlights challenges to the effective enforcement of the legislation in its current form, with An Garda Síochána and the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions noting significant barriers. These include limited power of arrest for detention and questioning, the requirement of an admission of guilt, and challenges in prosecution due to the necessary ‘proofs’.

It also finds that the ability to successfully support and protect is hindered by a lack of culturally appropriate support services including healthcare, social welfare, gender specific housing for women, and clear exit routes.

The review also notes that the prevalence of human trafficking among those involved in the sale of sex in Ireland is not fully known, and the lack of reliable data is cited by both advocates for and opponents of section 7A."

It is saying that the police in Ireland find it difficult to prosecute men, it seems that without an admission of guilt nothing can happen to them. There have only been 15 convictions. It is saying that that exit strategies for women involved in prostitution are not there. It is saying that they have no idea whether trafficking has increased or decreased.

When it comes to demand, the key issue, the review does not say that demand has decreased. The nearest the review comes to answering this question is this paragraph:-

"Demand reduction and enforcement
The measurement of demand continues to be challenging due to the lack of official and/or independent statistics being consistently and uniformly collected. This is evident across all jurisdictions and is driven by the nature of conducting research in this area."

There may be other information about whether demand has increased but I haven't found it yet. I did find this though on this page:-

"Minister O’Callaghan added: “My key focus on this issue is to seek to reduce demand, protect those involved in the sex trade, and support those who wish to exit. “Regrettably, the Review highlights that despite the criminalisation of the purchase of sexual services, demand has not decreased. The Review points to recommendations to address this around awareness raising; these are mirrored in the Programme for Government and the Zero Tolerance Strategy. “In addition, certain recommendations will be considered in respect of law enforcement, and my officials are consulting with An Garda Síochána in this regard.” According to An Garda Síochána, the DPP had directed 161 prosecutions for the offence of ‘Payment etc. for Sexual Activity with a Prostitute’ from January 2017 up to August 2024. Over that period, our police service recorded 15 convictions under the legislation."

So it looks as if the introduction of the Nordic model in Ireland has been a failure.

go here to see Irish Legal News on the review
Demand has not decreased in the Irish Republic and in Northern Ireland the ban has had “minimal to no effect” on the market.

go here to see Sex Workers Alliance Ireland on the review

go here to see my page on Ireland

my trip to London (2025)

I had another trip to London. So many of the walk ups I knew have closed. My favourite was 8 Greek Street. Last year I saw Sabrina there. Fortunately, I found her in the walk up in Romilly Street. I had sex with her again and she told me that the Greek Street premises have been sold. There seems to have been a lot of development around there, they have opened up the back of Greek Street so that you can walk around there.

I asked Sabrina if she would be there tomorrow and she said yes. The next day though she was the maid and it was Julia who was the sex worker. Julia is much younger and more attractive than Sabrina so I had sex with her. Julia has straight black hair and looks very Mediterranean. I think she is in her 30s and she is not slender but not fat either. Just the sort I like best.

Julia is a bit bossy which I don't mind. It's better when they tell you that you're too heavy on top of them and you need to lift yourself up a bit.

The Romilly Street walk up has two flats and is right at the eastern end of Romilly Street not far from Charing Cross Road. How many people walking along Charing Cross Road know that in a couple of minutes they could be shagging a beautiful Spanish woman for £30? There is a pub on a corner with lots of people standing outside. How many of them pop up the stairs for a quick shag, hearing all the people talking outside the window and the traffic passing by?

After I had seen Julia I wanted to see another woman. I had told Julia she must be the most beautiful woman in Soho apart from Sonia. Julia wanted to know who she is and where she works. I thought I would find Sonia, but the maid said she wasn't there that day. The woman who was there was a nice Brazilian woman, very friendly. I think the maid said she was called Vivien, but when I asked her in the room she said her name was Fifi or something.

She looks about 30, is of average attractiveness and a darker skin. Slender. The Lisle Street walk ups seem to be unaffected, with numbers 2, 3 and 4 still open. Number 3 has only one flat and number 4 has two. The flat where I saw Sonia last year is the upper flat at number 4, although the maid told me on Tuesday that she works in the lower flat.

Two days later I was back in Soho. There is only one walk up in Greens Court now. I saw Bianca in the lower flat. She is a lovely young blonde. Very friendly. Even more friendly was Brazilian Katarina at 4 Lisle Street upper flat. She was very encouraging and the best I saw that day. Almost as good was Samantha at 3 Lisle Street. Samantha is quite pretty with a smiley face. She wanted me to shag her fast and hard: this might have been because she liked it that way or maybe she knew I would come sooner. She said she is half Russian.

So that was three nice ones. There was another one who was a disappointment. Laura is in the Greens Court walk up in the upper flat. She is not pretty and an odd shape. I asked her to lie on the bed and let me look at her pussy. She stared at me with a puzzled expression on her face. It was not conducive to me getting an erection. There was another one like her at 4 Lisle Street lower flat.

So I know who to see next time I come to London. Julia and Katarina were the best. Julia because she is so attractive and Katarina because she is so friendly. Bianca and Samantha are worth seeing. Sabrina and Vivien/Fifi are good. Laura and the other one best avoided.

The walk ups now are Romilly Street, Greens Court, the three in Lisle Street and the Thai one in Little Newport Street. There is also the other one in Greek Street. That is still open but seems to open later and works differently to other walk ups now. Romilly Street has the names of the women in the corridor but it seems the other places don't have that.

When I go to London I'm not just interested in women. I was staying in Pimlico and I found Tachbrook Street street market. It must be a posh area. I have never seen a fishmonger selling sea urchins and razor clams. I have never seen a greengrocer selling mangosteens and rambutans. Not everything was expensive, I bought a halloumi wrap for £5.

academics versus liars

I have been reading two interesting books about prostitution. The first one is by an academic, Dr Ko-lin Chin. He is a Professor at Rutgers University School of Criminal Justice. The second one is by Sarah Forsyth and Tim Tate (who has a degree in Theology).

The book by the Professor is called Going Down to the Sea. He interviewed 149 sex workers in different countries, all from mainland China. The book recounts the interviews of 18 of these women. In the epilogue he sums up the information given to him by these 149 women.

The vast majority of them were not deceived, coerced or forced into the sex trade. Only 1% were, although 15% were not free to move around or quit sex work because their travel documents are kept by their employer or debtor. There are various definitions of 'sex trafficking victim'.

He says there are different problems in different countries. It is better for them in the USA than in Asian countries. In the USA none of them were underage, in debt to sex ring operators, financially exploited, or denied freedom of movement (or forced, coerced or deceived).

The women had no contact with organised crime except within the Geylang red light district of Singapore. What Ko-lin Chin has found is consistent with what Elizabeth Pisani and Rhacel Salazar Parreñas have found in South East Asia. They are also academics who have conducted research in the field.

The book by Sarah Forsyth and Tim Tate is Slave Girl. There are many reviews online, some people don't believe it is true. Below is part of one review.

"The fact that her description of the Red Light District in Amsterdam is actually highly inaccurate, and anyone who has been there should be able to verify the author has greatly distorted this for sensationalist purposes. I have been to the RLD as a tourist (naturally this book had me feeling ashamed at having done so, and while I question its accuracy I have no intention of going there again) and the girls in the windows appear perfectly healthy, fit, attractive and seemingly happy there. It is quite likely that the latter point is an act they have mastered in order to keep drawing punters in, but even so it is not an act that a hopeless junkie would be physically or mentally capable of pulling off convincingly. In short, there is no way that these women are simply 'living on a diet of drugs and m&ms' as Sarah claims; her description is more akin to the disease-ridden and drug-addicted prostitutes you are more likely to find walking the streets of any big city. Likewise Sarah is extremely demeaning of the punters who visit the girls and even the tourists who pass through the area, she basically says they are all evil and feelingless, knowingly raping the girls."

That's not the only inaccuracy. There are 3 RLDs in Amsterdam, not 2 as she states. The two she mentions don't adjoin each other and form 'one large drug-dealing flesh market'.

Some of it doesn't even make sense. On page 103 she wrote that she was working in a window in Amsterdam and she wanted to open the door because her co-worker was a chain-smoker. She couldn't though because the pimp had locked them in. So how did they let the punters in to the room, if they were locked in? On page 147 she wrote that each sex worker handled hundreds of punters a week.

In the afterword there is a lot of false information about Operation Pentameter and Gatwick Airport, similar to the sort of stuff Evangelical Christians tend to believe.

Tim Tate wrote a book called Children for the Devil: Ritual Abuse and Satanic Crime. This is how it is described: 'The ritualistic abuse of children in satanic ceremonies is increasingly coming to light as children in the UK, USA and Europe disclose identical experiences involving torture, cannibalism, animal sacrifice, live burial, murder and the use of drugs snakes and insects in sexual abuse'. Tate was sued in 1992, shortly after the book was published, for defamatory accusations against a police officer. Tate could not substantiate the accusations and agreed a settlement. It was pulled by its publishers and pulped.

No doubt the Evangelicals will think that the Devil has managed to stifle their free speech.

I don't usually come across books like Slave Girl, libraries and bookshops tend not to stock them. I might have been looking in the wrong places though. It seems that there are many books in this genre. I was surprised when the book popped up on the Nordic Model Now! site. This is what Megan King ('survivor and abolitionist') wrote.

"Within the book she describes the reality of the sex trade there, including witnessing the murder of a fellow prostituted woman, as the brothel owners created a ‘snuff porn’ video, which for those of you who are unaware of this, means it is pornography depicting real homicide. She witnessed someone being murdered in the name of pornography in front of her eyes."

According to Forsyth (or Tate) she had a gun held to her head. Funny that, none of the women in South East Asia interviewed by Professor Chin had a gun held to their head, not even in Singapore. Yet we are supposed to believe that in North West Europe this happens.

On the same Nordic Model Now! page by Megan King there is a false statistic that I want to address. "In Sweden from 1999 to 2008, there was a 76% reduction in the number of prostituted women." There is a reference for this statistic which is Not a choice, Not a job: Exposing the myths about prostitution and the global sex trade by Janice Raymond (page 73).

I can't get access to this book so I'm not sure where this statistic comes from. I think it comes from here though.

"In 1995, a national government report published estimates that there were approximately 2500 to 3000 prostituted women in Sweden, of whom 650 were in street prostitution. In 1998, street prostitution was estimated even higher, at 726. By 2008, a study estimated that approximately 300 women were prostituted on Swedish streets, while 300 women and 50 men were identified in Swedish online prostitution advertisements. Prostitution increased in Denmark and Norway during the same period, gauged using similar measurements as in Sweden."

We have two different estimates, one from 1995 (not 1999) and one from 2008. Both flawed. Not all indoor prostitution relied on the Internet in 2008. The 300 figure for indoor prostitution is way too low.

2500 decreased by 76% is 600. However, according to surveys in 1996 0.3% of Swedish women stated that they had been paid for sex. In 2008 the figure was 1.1% and in 2017 it was 1.5%. So I would say that it is a myth that there was a reduction in the number of sex workers in Sweden between 1999 and 2008.

Below is an extract from the Skarhed report of 2010. It shows that the 650 figure for the number of sex workers in Sweden in 2008 is not to be trusted. I have emboldened what I think is the most important.

"In the research report ―Prostitution in the Nordic Countries, Charlotta Holmström’s article summarizes the available knowledge about the situation in Sweden in 2008. It shows that approximately 300 women were involved in street prostitution and that about 300 women and 50 men were involved in prostitution on the Internet. However, the article points out that this does not mean that we can estimate the number of people in prostitution in Sweden to be 650. As described above, people in prostitution may be active in several arenas at once, for example both on the Internet and on the street, which would mean that the same person was counted more than once. On the other hand, Holmström felt that the estimate could be rather low, as it was dependent on how social work was organized and what surveys were conducted. Thus, rather than providing a reliable picture of the actual situation, the estimates might in fact say more about the resources and priorities of the police and social services. In summary, she states that the number of women in street prostitution in the three major cities in Sweden appears to be relatively well-defined and that knowledge about women who offer sex over the Internet is somewhat more limited, but under development, while the knowledge of men who provide sexual services and people who offer sex in other arenas than on the street and the Internet, as well as our knowledge of the incidence of prostitution outside the big-city areas, is very limited. Holmström also states that ―at the same time, authorities believe that the majority of prostitution activities occur in less visible arenas."

Clearly she is saying that the 350 figure for men and women advertising on the Internet is not the total number of indoor workers.